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on Jun 13 2012 14 comments8 DISCUSSING
What if the site wasn't hacked at all? what if these are..... dropped domains. 1. CedarLakeDance.com's registration info was updated to private on 07-DEC-2011 2. Sigplayer.com and AreaPayDayLoans247.com share the same ip address, nameservers, and theme skin 3. CedarLakeDance.com redirects to SigPlayer.com which displays the AreaPaydayLoans247.com skin
Joe, for me i could not replicate the redirect. It just load the original site. What you say indeed is weird. The domain has been put on Private Registration in December 2011. Could either be dropped or hijacked domain. And the rest of the linking domain might present the same scenario. These are huge networks of abused sites (hacked,hijacked etc).
Turns out it is hacked. I found the rest of the pages via a site colon search, found their facebook and called the phone number + tweeted them. They had no idea the site had been hacked, a growing problem with small businesses. I called and tried to walk them through clean up, they said they are going to start working on it immediately and get it fixed. If you run the domain through W3's Validator and look at the HTML output you see that the site has 2 hacks on the page. 1 for USAPayDayNet.com and the other a javascript file that redirects users to SigPlayer.com or possibly other sites (i didn't dig too far on this one).
keep us informed Joe ;)
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I personally learned a lot and found this totally valuable. I'd say it's a great example of why webspam should be open for analysis and discussion. Hope to see a lot more.
Additionally, posts like this help surface questionable / unethical techniques that allow sites to rank. In this example, is "cedarlakedance" really the best search result? Does it deliver the best user experience? By calling out these techniques, sites that play fairly and are of better quality should rise to the top over time.
I am Razvan from cognitiveSEO (the guy that wrote the post). First thank you for your appreciation on the post. I wrote it, because I find it amazing how spam is still active on the top 10 places on some of the most competitive terms. This was just one example. There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of them on other highly competitive terms.(imagine how easy it is to achieve not so competitive terms, with similar techniques) I would not refer to it as outing Tad (was not the intention). Just wanted to attract the attention that the old techniques still work, post Panda + Penguin with a real world quick research. For me the research took only 5 minutes to find all that shady stuff. ( more to write the actual post) The search engines still rely on links as the main ranking factor. Until they move away from this, the same techniques will work, on and on again. What Google and the rest do, is they make it harder and harder to Spam the result. Statistically speaking if 5 years ago there were 100 webmasters spamming the results successfully ... now there are, I think 5 to 10. Only the cutting-edge guys stayed active in this line of biz. Anyway there are several other "old" techniques that still work. It is (& was) under our nose the whole time. Just reverse engineer some top spammed keywords and you will always see what it is working.
I learned how to hack websites for SEO and profit.
Ranking #1 for 'payday loans' is kind of outing yourself. If you're trying to avoid attention/detection - that's not exactly a good term to go after.
It's not really about outing a particular business here but a technique. Telling everybody how to hack sites and label it SEO is also suicidal for the whole industry. The "don't do it at home" disclaimer won't help the overall message of this post: "LOOK HERE SEO HACKING WORKS GREAT!!!"
someone pls explain why that USA radio station ranks for this query.
For anyone working in this vertical or other highly competitive verticals, this shouldn't be a huge shocker. The SERPs for these types of queries have been a mess for weeks, and Panda/Penguin/etc haven't corrected that. Between hacked sites, cloaked 301 redirects, and spam links, these guys continue to rank, and will do so until Google finds a way to *quickly* / automatically identify these tactics and devalue these sketchy tactics.
Since we've got evidence this is working in some SERPs, someone should test the extent of how much with works. Can we get something ranking for "Google" or "Bing" or something highly monitored and very hard to penetrate. If someone could do that, it would be an awesome indicator of how far this can get the Black-Hats at the moment. Real kudos to Razvan though. Awesome post and news-breaker.