commit: 6b2ca8a - #414 (2014-03-05 12:54:44 -0500)
http://www.inbound.org/guidelines"Observe coolness when writing a comment, giving a response or interacting with your fellow community members. Anger, insults, derogatory language and all other forms of non-coolness are unwelcome."
I'm not going to duplicate what I wrote on the associated G+ thread, but you can read all here: https://plus.google.com/111281237026956261341/posts/cByhFaES7SJ
That, and what Will S said ^^^
Can't really argue with that comment. I think there has been a lot of talk recently about the UI/UX of inbound.org, which is great that you guys are addressing. The only thing, and what Mark Traphagen said within the G+ thread was that there seems to be a dip in quality within inbound.With any community, quality is always going to be hard to moderate, especially if you want to remain neutral and allow for user-style moderation (i.e. if it's crappy content then the community will not put it to the forefront of attention); however, I think that there are a lot of accounts on inbound that have been set up purely to manipulate the voting system and this really does need to be addressed.I recently took on Charles to work with me at Wow Internet and I have to say, trying to censor him is nigh on impossible (he will testify for this haha!), but I do kind of agree with a lot of the things he said within his last thread that got him banned. Also, I wouldn't necessarily say that he was offensive within it either - having said this, I'm not about to launch a campaign about it and I will leave the moderation to you guys.
Will you please Re-think about charles , because he is really a good contributor at inbound.org.
Hmm. Didn't get banned, but this account (which I don't use anymore because I am using the one with my name instead) just got flagged for only promoting my own stuff. The odd thing is I haven't posted anything here from this account in about a year. The last thing was not from my site. There were maybe 5 or 6 other posts which were from my site except for one, so I guess the moderators figure it is better late than never?
FWIW, the profile I actually use is rarely used for self promotion.
Can't we have a 3 day ban, then 7 then permanent ban like other forums?
I think this is a very sensible, humane policy that shows some understanding for how passionate users get for their community.
I think you rather got banned for pointing fingers at other users who were perfectly legit. That said, it's easy to get banned here even in case you contribute a lot. I almost got banned once too. It's like in real life, you may visit a bar every day for a year and then you start a brawl once and then you won't be allowed in again.
Tad, that analogy made me genuinely laugh out loud - "you start a brawl once and then you won't be allowed in again" - haha!
I'm a huge fan of this ban, personally. I had noticed this person's comments and submissions, especially in the last couple of weeks, and my general reaction to them was that maybe inbound.org wasn't for me. I think drama for drama's sake in our little tiny profession looks unprofessional . I know there's community policies and very-serious-business-of-the-internet things to consider here, but this fellow has been one of the main reasons I've been ardently wishing for a downvote arrow on this site.
It's unfair to ask a moderator of a site to change their stance on something they took a stance on. Ed has to upload the integrity of this community, and if he made a decision to ban someone, I'm going to trust that he did it for a good reason. As someone who's had to ban people many times at Moz, I know this sort of thing doesn't happen lightly. Also, we must remember there's always more to every "story" than what you're hearing. We should push for professionalism and folks who can contribute in a positive way.
Well said, completely agree!
I'm not exactly sure about the details (been away for quite a while; it'd be great if someone could link me to it) but if the ban struck Charles down without justifiable warning I couldn't agree more with Patrick Coombe (http://www.inbound.org/users/view/patrickcoombe): "Can't we have a 3 day ban, then 7 then permanent ban like other forums?"
Nevertheless, each of us were not forced to be a part of this community in the first place. We volunteered because we want to learn from (and teach) each other and contribute to the industry, and rules/guidelines were established for us to follow. There are people working hard to help make Inbound.org better over time. Let's respect each other's stance, especially those of the mods (imagine the crap load they have to dig through via Incoming). Having a better but opposing opinion doesn't mean we can take a stab at the other person for being "wrong" (and then there are a lot of other more private ways like email where you can discuss with the person as to avoid publicly devaluing their take if that's your cup of tea), and this goes for both sides. To quote Jen above: "We should push for professionalism and folks who can contribute in a positive way."
It's like going to a restaurant: if you don't like what's being served, the atmosphere, or how the people there treat you - why keep on returning, right?
Just my two cents. Hi all! :)