1. 14 DISCUSSING
  • Tad Chef   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    We all need keyword density checkers again, to find out whether our keyword density is too high.

  • Dr. Peter J. Meyers   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    You are my keyword destiny, Tad.

  • Tad Chef   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    Defiantly!

  • Dr. Peter J. Meyers   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    Seriously, can't believe this fell under the radar. Little coverage of "Venice", too. Are these monthly algo announcements by Google making us all lazy (except Barry)?

  • Tad Chef   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    I submitted and vote up three posts on Venice but nobody cared for two of them. Only the SEOmoz one got some votes here. Those 30/40 algo updates posts are an excellent smokescreen indeed though. You could digest them for months.

  • Stuart Wooster   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    So let's get this right, we need 400 words of drivel on a page that is not overly optimised? It is a funny old world out there right now for SEO.

  • Kris Roadruck   Mar 19 2012   Flag

    400 is the new "thin" ;-)

  • Trevin S.   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    That reads like 'quality SEO' and 'quality content' are mutually exclusive. That's not the case at all...

  • Ross Hudgens   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    Haven't they always been hammering over-optimization? Maybe they're turning it up a notch. But definitely will be checking the density and internal anchor text.

  • gary viray   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    Can we say, "Oh, site! you are so "dense". You will not merit a Google love." =)

  • Willy Franzen   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    From the language he used, it sounds like they're going to algorithmically penalize sites for over-optimization instead of taking away the benefits of over-optimziation. That seems odd to me. Why not just make those practices less effective? If spammy stuff didn't work, there wouldn't be a need to "level the playing field." The "level the playing field" talk is interesting too. Everything Google has done lately seems to favor large brands or at the very least large sites. Would this be a move in the opposite direction?

  • Mark Mathson   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    Cream always rises to the top as they say. In this case, it would be nice to know however some guidelines as to what Matt's and Google's definition of "over optimization or overly SEO" is. Even quality content, however one would define that, could potentially be 'at risk' of being penalized if it is considered 'overly optimized' or 'overly SEO'.

  • Andrew Skotzko   Mar 16 2012   Flag

    What is the definition of "overly SEOd"? Seems kind of vague.

  • Ken Lyons   Mar 17 2012   Flag

    I guess we'll find out soon enough.

  • Gaz Copeland   Mar 17 2012   Flag

    this may mean that they're lowering the value of on page elements I guess, or maybe if adding a penalty if the same keywords are found in too many places "key" places. Even more weight on links?

  • Kieran Flanagan   Mar 18 2012   Flag

    Since he mentioned too many keywords on the page or link exchanges, it could just be sites which are doing way too much crappy stuff that get spanked by this.

  • Grant Merriel   Apr 24 2012   Flag

    I have been following this whole over-optimization since Venice came out, going 'it's not going to happen to me'....sure enough, got thrown back by about 14 pages for every keywords (even my brand). All anger, etc aside, as I have 1,000 pages on my E-Commerce store and was 81 pages through re-writing every page, is it more worth me scrapping the website and starting afresh? Or is it the links that were built when I purchased the business about 4 months ago that killed it? Would love to see a link or some words from other people that have got hit and how they went about re-gaining their rankings.

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